Splenic Authority for Projectors w/ Alexandra Diamond

Sep 14, 2022
You're Golden with Alexandria Rollet. Splenic Authority for Projectors with Alexandra Diamond. Lion background with portrait photos of two women overlayed.

In this episode, Alexandria has Alexandra back on the show, but this time they deep dive into the lived experience of the Splenic Authority within Projectors. You can catch Alexandra in a previous episode about Saturn Returns here.


Questions that are addressed:

- How does the Splenic hit feel?
- What does "in the moment" decision-making mean?
- What is the true role of the Spleen?
- What happens if you miss a Splenic hit?
- How do the other centers in the bodygraph come into play?
- Does your authority feel different from pre-Human Design awareness?
- How can we begin to feel into our Splenic Authority?


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[00:00:00] Alexandria: All right, so welcome to the podcast again, Alexandra Diamond. Thank you. Awesome to

[00:00:57] Alexandra: have you. Thank you for being here. Thank you. No, [00:01:00] thank you for having me. Like I have said before, I love, I love chatting with you and it is always such a juicy conversation and yeah, I think you get too protectors of mankind together and all of a sudden, like it's yeah.

[00:01:16] It's, it's, it's big. yeah, it feels, that is great. Yeah. It feels like there's always a lot to cover and never enough time in the world. And yet. Just such a joy, so thank you. Yeah. Good.

[00:01:29] Alexandria: Yay. Yeah. So if anybody's wondering, had Alexandra on the podcast back when it was called "Mercury in the Eighth", had her on talking about Saturn returns and that whole navigation.

[00:01:43] So I will definitely link in the show notes if you wanted to listen to that. But today we're gonna talk about splenic authority and this is actually going to kick off the entire authority series. And I'm just so excited because this is [00:02:00] my authority, your authority. Yeah. And that's the whole point of this series is to give real life explanations and descriptions on what these authorities feel like.

[00:02:13] How do we actually use them? You know, just really getting into the nitty gritty of the real life lived experience of human design rather than. Textbook stuff. And what better? One to start with than the splenic authority, which everyone says, it's just this little whisper that you can't really explain and everybody's as different, so good luck.

[00:02:35] Alexandra: yeah. The amount of like, God listen really carefully or you'll miss it that I've heard. And subsequently in, through my own experience, debunked has been, so yeah, it's its. It's not empowering, you know? Yeah. And I think that, like, there's a lot about human design. That can be very validating when you first learn about it.[00:03:00]

[00:03:00] And yet it is not traditionally taught in a super empowering way. I know we're not talking about strategies, but like a lot of the strategies are like, wait to respond, wait to be invited, you know? And it's like, no, wait, that's not, no, wait, that's not, , that's not exactly an empowering way to, to be engaging with life.

[00:03:18] Right? Like, here's this great gift that we have, which is life. Like we wake up every day and like, you get to make choices. That's so cool. That's really, really cool. And as humans that can also be really, really overwhelming. So having an authority that you can rely on is such a relief. It's such a, like it's having a helper in your corner.

[00:03:42] And I know my favorite thing about the splenic authority is that it is so deeply related to my body and my body's experience in the world and in my life. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's actually a lot louder. We just aren't used to listening [00:04:00] to it and it's not a common authority. So I think there hasn't been as many people speaking out about what the real experience is with, with a splenic authority.

[00:04:08] Mm-hmm yeah,

[00:04:09] Alexandria: totally. I really appreciate you mentioning strategy also because I think that we should absolutely include it in this conversation. Great. Because I feel like. Sometimes gets missed that the strategy and authority are intertwined. Like they go to get, there is a process yes.

[00:04:31] For sure. Yeah. Yeah. So I definitely want to get into that into the detail of that. So let's start pretty top level in your own words. What is the splenic

[00:04:44] Alexandra: authority? Yeah, so the splenic authority. And the way I like to teach all authority is that it is it's your internal decision maker, for course, altering decisions, right?

[00:04:56] Or course altering choices. The splenic authority obviously is [00:05:00] located in your, in your splenic center. So if you have a splenic center to find no other and no, no emotional center defined no Sacral center defined. So for example, if you are a projector or manifestor your splenic center is your internal decision maker and our splenic center is the center of our.

[00:05:18] Basic survival instincts, but also our intuition. It's tied to the lymphatic system in the body and it makes decisions based on the information that it is consistently getting, right. It doesn't get stimulated in the way that a Sacral authority we'd get stimulated or an emotional authority would be stimulated the splenic authority because it is deeply tied to your lymphatic system.

[00:05:42] And I also like to think it is deeply tied to your central nervous system. Mm-hmm . And so this can also change whether you have a defined or undefined route. I think that also can play into how your splenic authority manifests itself or, or how you experience it, I should say. But because it's tied to your lymphatic system, [00:06:00] it's tied to your immune system.

[00:06:03] Splenic authority is always taking information in people have described it like having F or yeah, lots of fingers or tongues and noses all over your skin. Right. So it's constantly in relationship to the environment that you're in, the people that you're around. And we could say this about a lot of our design, right?

[00:06:23] Is that it's constantly being affected and by transits and other people but your splenic authority is there to make sure that like, what you're doing is still healthy for you and it'll make decisions based on yes, like your path in life, but like your path in life is to remain very healthy. I think people with a defined spleen, like they have that consistent access to their immune system, they have consistent access to like in relationship to white blood cells.

[00:06:52] And if this sounds kind of like, where is she pulling all of this from if we think about human design, not just [00:07:00] intellectually, it's not just about your personality. It is tied to your body. Folks with an undefined splenic center will very likely experience a lot more life challenges or what's a the word I'm looking for is like branches opportunities through their health mm-hmm whereas folks with a defined spleen, their health is pretty consistent, whether that's good or bad, right?

[00:07:25] Like, just because you have a defined spleen doesn't mean you don't have allergies doesn't mean that you don't go through things with your health, but your health is meant to be a consistent found part of your foundation. And so your splenic authority operates by taking in information about the health of the area around you and whether that's healthy for you.

[00:07:44] Yeah, so that's, that's kind of, I think what it is mm-hmm and I think that, you know, there's, again, like we said before, there's a lot of teaching about it being really quiet. And I think that it's only really quiet [00:08:00] if you've been experiencing Sacral authority. I can understand how a Sacral authority is so much louder.

[00:08:06] Being somebody with an open Sacral and being around people who have a defined Sacral. When I, I get. That conditioning of their energy. I feel that very deeply. I feel that like, whoa, whoa. Yeah, let's go. That feels great. Uhhuh Uhhuh, but that is not me. that's me like in relationship or sitting next to somebody with a defined Sacral.

[00:08:31] Mm-hmm mm-hmm

[00:08:32] Alexandria: yeah, I'm glad you clarified that because at first it was like, well, what exactly do you mean by having experienced the Sacral authority when you don't have that? No, but yes, that makes complete sense. And I would say it, it feels, I also feel an emotional authority when they're around and like how intense that is too.

[00:08:53] Alexandra: Mm, yes. Very much. So I have an undefined emotional center and having been in intimate [00:09:00] relationships with people, with emotional centers or emotional authority, I've noticed for myself. That one, I can usually pick up on where they're at in their wave, but it took learning to check in with my emotional self, because none of us are supposed to make decisions from an emotional place, right?

[00:09:20] Like people with emotional authority, you have to wait for that clarity, that neutrality, but as somebody with an undefined emotional center and the only gates I have, there are crisis and conflict. So joy yay. It, I, I can, those feelings become so amplified in me. And before I really knew how to work with it, I did feel like a super emotional person.

[00:09:43] Like I, I, I struggled with my emotional health for a really, really long time specifically in relationship to other people. And I always saw it as like, why is this person making me feel this way? it was like, wait, whoa, wait. I mean, they are, they are, but also like. It's [00:10:00] I, I know what my own emotions are about the situation now and it's not theirs.

[00:10:05] Does that make

[00:10:05] Alexandria: sense? Yeah, mm-hmm makes sense to me. Okay. so let's clarify just, just a little, yeah. On the note of what we mean by they are making you feel that yeah. Versus what cat, I mean, no control versus what is commonly talked about with the idea of nobody makes you feel

[00:10:30] Alexandra: right? Yes. I love talking about this.

[00:10:33] Yeah. Yes. So even if, even though I have an undefined emotional center, it doesn't mean I don't have my own feelings. I do. And my feelings that are mine might differ from. The conditioning that I'm being, that I'm experiencing being around somebody with an emotional center. Now being around someone with an emotional center can also [00:11:00] amplify my real feelings, right?

[00:11:02] So whether you have an emotional center to find, or your solar plexus center to find or not, we're all still responsible for our own emotions and our own feelings. That being said, when I can remove myself from the aura of an emotionally defined person, and there's no transits that are giving me emotional definition at that time, the difference is very distinct and my clarity comes immediately.

[00:11:32] There's no like waiting to go through the feelings it's like it's immediate.

[00:11:37] Alexandria: I want to ask you about your experience when you first started learning about human design and learning about your splenic authority.

[00:11:44] So now that you have hindsight the gift of hindsight. Mm. Do you feel like you were following your authority even before you knew about human design authorities, et cetera?

[00:11:57] Alexandra: I do, but not [00:12:00] consistently. Mm-hmm I think that, I know I've always felt very intuitive in my body. I've always felt like I have a near animal ability to hear, feel sense things.

[00:12:14] Specifically when it comes to like danger weather, things that are of the natural world. I grew up in a rural area suburban to rural and I grew up on a farm and I spent a lot of time outside, a lot of time in the woods, and that was my place to go and clear my head. And when I was this sense of being able to like know which way to at a very young age know which way to go, like not get lost.

[00:12:48] My parents never worried about us in that way. Like my sister and I and we were always kind left to go out alone, if that was what we wanted to do. That being said in [00:13:00] terms of like, as I got older and started making more decisions about my life I would say that, yes. I had some experiences in my early twenties where.

[00:13:10] And, and this is a whole other story for another time, but in my early twenties I had I had what's called a mental breakdown. And I was I spent some time in an inpatient mental facility. I really lost a lot of touch with reality and, and how to interact with it. And when I came out of that experience, I knew I wasn't at my, you know, everyone was like, okay, cool.

[00:13:35] Like you're good. Go back to school, get back on the path. Do do do do. And my, I did not know what was next, but I knew that wasn't it. And I was very careful to give myself the space and time to feel out what was next. And as things came into my field You know suggestions from friends or, or talking to people or things like that was when I [00:14:00] started to receive invitations on both literal and energetic levels and which was more strategy and just knew in a very bodily sense, what I needed to do.

[00:14:13] And I will say that, and I made this really clear to my family and then started doing the research for what that meant and what that was going to be. But I knew I needed to get dirt under my fingernails in a physical way. Like I needed that feeling and I needed to be warm and I needed to be in a in like a natural environ, like I needed to be very close to earth.

[00:14:37] Right. And so over time I realized, okay, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go WWOOFing. I'm gonna go like worldwide organization, organic farmers, whatever. In hindsight, I look back at that and I'm like, oh, that was my body. Literally telling me what it needed in that moment. For safety and security. And when it came at, you know, as I've gotten older now looking at other decisions that I've made, I have had moments where I've [00:15:00] gotten a full body rush or a full body goosebump kind of a situation.

[00:15:05] Or what sometimes what it feels like is almost like a, a flushing of my, for me, it feels like a flushing of my lymphatic system. And it can feel like a good flushing, like a refreshing flushing. It can feel like a draining depending on what the circumstance is. And there have been times when I've listened to it and don't know what would've happened otherwise, but I'm very happy.

[00:15:29] I listened to it regardless, and then I've not listened to it and, and gotten. Through a stumble, you know, whether that was something that happened that was negative or, or traumatic or whatever, because I didn't listen to that. That feeling mm-hmm so to answer your question yes, but not consciously and not not in a way that I trusted it.

[00:15:55] And I think, especially after having experiences [00:16:00] where I wasn't in control of my own body it was really difficult to learn that again. And I see a lot of us out there making logical decisions and working with the computer that is our brain without actually listening to what the body needs you know, in, in big decisions in our lives, because the big ones feel like the ones you should put logic into and like, yeah, sure.

[00:16:22] That's absolutely good information to have, but. The splenic authority is not always logical. It just knows what's going to keep you healthy and move you towards the things that will expand you and, and help you grow. Mm-hmm

[00:16:40] Alexandria: mm-hmm .

[00:16:41] Once you learned about human design and your Splenic authority, did anything change within your awareness of decision making now that you had a language for what you were already feeling in your body? Absolutely.

[00:16:58] Alexandra: Okay. It was so validating. [00:17:00] It was so validating to learn that my internal decision maker was actually.

[00:17:05] Intuition and my bodily intuition there now in terms of the language, I think the original language that I learned was a little limiting. Wasn't super empowering. And there wasn't a whole lot of like how to use it or how, you know, it's like, oh, like, get in touch with your intuition. Well, okay. What's the difference between a gut feeling from the sacral and a gut feeling from the splenic center.

[00:17:36] And so after having that language, I felt really validated in my experience of, oh, yes, I am supposed to listen to this, like this isn't just animal brain nonsense. Like this is, this is real. My body is not like lo left in the stone age. It is here. It does understand what's happening and. And that was also kind of supported by [00:18:00] my years of becoming a body worker in that I, and a Craniosacral therapist is I do, I really do understand that the body understands what's going on.

[00:18:10] I think there's this maybe more traditional view that, oh, our body is just the animal part of us. It's not, it's it doesn't understand the world as it is. Mm-hmm no, it very much does. Well,

[00:18:21] Alexandria: and this is kind of getting the cart before the horse a little bit, but, and a lot of studies and such coming through, and a lot of, I don't know how much of it op is opinion versus scientific fact, but the whole notion that all of our survival instincts that we have are actually just conditioned responses from all of the trauma that we've had as children, which like, yes, but.

[00:18:49] also like,

[00:18:51] Alexandra: yes. So that's a really interesting distinction to make too. And that's like a lot of the work that I end up doing with clients over counseling sessions is [00:19:00] being able to discern between what is a conditioned response and what is actually your either Sacral or splenic authority. And a lot of conditioned responses come from an emotional place.

[00:19:17] You can identify an emotion with them. Whereas a splenic response is not necessarily emotional. It just exists. It might when it needs to trigger a sense of anxiety, but not every time. And. Well, and the

[00:19:38] Alexandria: spleen is on that note, the spleen is a fear center. It is. So like there is going to be, yeah. There there's that whole notion that when you land on the thing, that's correct for you, there's just this warm and fuzzy, you know, what's correct.

[00:19:57] And blah, blah, blah. Like

[00:19:59] Alexandra: not [00:20:00] necessarily, no, not necessarily at all. In fact, more like the way our white blood cells and our lymphatic system works. Everything's cool. Everything is consistently cool until it's not, that's more the, the rhythm, I would say, if there's a rhythm to it, the splenic center, that's more the rhythm of the splenic center.

[00:20:20] It really is cool until it's not or until something would be better, you know, or, oh, I need something like that's, that's more. I think congruent with the experience of, of splenic authority. And I think that what we have lost in becoming so conditioned by our own experiences, ancestral experiences is our individual connection to that survival intuition. Yeah. I'm gonna stop it right there. I'm gonna leave that there.

[00:20:56] Alexandria: I do want to go ahead and provide my experience with [00:21:00] before human design and after human design. Yeah. Because I had a very different response and I think this is just speculation, but you and I have different definition in the root.

[00:21:14] So I have, yes. I have an undefined route and you have a defined route. Mm-hmm so. Current speculation for me right now is that might be the difference of why our experiences are so different. So prior to learning about human design, you know, I would read things about being a cancer or, you know, things about my numerology or whatever.

[00:21:39] And I would read all this information about how I'm this intuitive person mm-hmm . And I really wanted to believe that. And I could tell that I had intuition to some degree, but it really never felt like I could trust it. It seemed like I was always trying to play a game with it almost like,

[00:21:58] Alexandra: yeah, no, I can definitely [00:22:00] relate to that for sure.

[00:22:01] Yeah. And I think that's because we get so conditioned to use the logical mind. Totally.

[00:22:07] Alexandria: Right. Totally.

[00:22:08] Alexandra: Mm-hmm so it was like, oh, let me just test this. Let me see if my intuition's actually right in relation to the logical answer.

[00:22:16] Alexandria: Yes. Yes. But it, I would do that so much that I just didn't really believe that I was intuitive at all.

[00:22:23] Now that I have hindsight, I can see where the example that you gave with like, knowing your way back home all the time. Like I had that kind of thing as well, but when I found that the Swan authority is likened to intuition, it was a little validating, but it was also like, it was validating in the sense that, oh, I can really explore what intuition is now.

[00:22:50] Mm. But it was also a feeling like, well, I just really don't understand what that means. I don't know how that works. So I came into the [00:23:00] splenic authority, really trying to find those resources that would tell me how it feels. mm-hmm and that doesn't exist. Really? No. So. So, okay. So then that's the perfect segue into, how does it actually feel for you?

[00:23:16] Can you get as specific as you can yeah. With that feeling, even if you have examples of situations or times where

[00:23:26] Alexandra: absolutely noticed it. Now it's like such a part of how I exist day to day that it's like, okay, how do I like, like take myself out of it for a second so I can look at it.

[00:23:39] Yeah. So like I was saying, like I kind of said before, right. Is like, I feel like the best explanation that I ever heard or that made the most sense to me. And my experience of the splenic authority is somebody once said that it was like having noses and tongues out, like [00:24:00] on your skin, not like licking you, but you know, on like that your skin, the pores mm-hmm were literally noses and tongues.

[00:24:06] They had that, that capacity and they were constantly taking in information and would respond when something wasn't right. Or when it needed something out of the, outta the environment. And when I say environment, I mean your little literal environment, but also contextual environment. So that was the first thing that, that kind of help make it clear.

[00:24:29] The way that I actually feel it in my body is a. Consistent. Yes, scanning, it's a consistent, like breath of what's happening around me. What, what things feel like. And I also, and, and we don't have to get all the way into this, but I also teach authority in conjunction with your cognition your environment and your motivation, especially for projectors mm-hmm

[00:24:58] And my cognition [00:25:00] is touch. So for me getting my hands on things, I absolutely get more information from them. And I literally feel like my skin and the skins of things, give me so much information. And so I experience my splenic authority is really just kind of like a constant filtering of the information around me.

[00:25:19] And when. I for whatever reason am in need of something, it will alert me through either a flooding of my lymphatic system. I feel it like literally I'll feel it in my armpits in my axillary lymph nodes inguinal lymph nodes in the groin, in my like in the lymph nodes, under my jaw, through my neck, the thoracic outlet area.

[00:25:47] When I need something or something is a yes. For me, it's a flushing. It's a feeling of like, you know, like a fresh blood [00:26:00] mm-hmm a washing almost mm-hmm and when something is not correct, there's a draining or a contraction, almost like I'm pulling almost like my aura is actually pulling in a little bit, like, mm, I see what's in there.

[00:26:14] Mm. And as a projector, right. I have that penetrating aura. And so when something's not correct, it's all, it's, it stays focused like, like a suspensory eye, but it pulls back within my aura. Does that make sense? I know like it's a little sci-fi. Yeah. I like it. I started reading Doune this summer and the language is blowing my mind.

[00:26:37] I haven't read it. I had read it. I'd started reading it before and like, I just picked it up again after the. Like since college. And I was like, wow, my gosh, I forgot how good this is. Actually I think in college it just like was so sci-fi, I couldn't relate to it. And maybe now that I'm a bigger weirdo or I've like really embraced it, I'm like, oh yeah.

[00:26:58] Suspensory eyes. Yeah, sure, sure,

[00:26:59] Alexandria: [00:27:00] sure. Oh man, I've heard great things about Doon. I have never read it and I've never seen it, so I need

[00:27:07] Alexandra: to, oh my God. I know. I, I need to expand my horizons. it's just a whole other conversation for folks. Like I know it's, there's a real tear on whether people really liked the movie or not, but there's yeah.

[00:27:22] Yes. Just, I would say the book is definitely worth the investment of time and energy. It's it's really beautiful. OK.

[00:27:30] Alexandria: Okay. Sorry. back to authority. It's all good. So I appreciate your explanations and your experience. I will say that. I don't feel it like that

[00:27:41] Alexandra: at all. tell me well, and that's the thing is I know there are other people that feel splenic authority differently.

[00:27:46] Yes. They feel it more like like a kicking or like a fluttering mm-hmm but yeah. What is yours like?

[00:27:54] Alexandria: So what I'm, what's what's feeling, what I'm feeling right now is the [00:28:00] need to specify how we have our spleens defined, because I really feel like that is necessary. Yes. In understanding how your spleen works.

[00:28:10] So if you don't mind, do you mind, if I share a little bit of your definition, please go for it. Okay. So as discussed, she has a defined root, and that is actually where the spleen. is defined by, is the fact that her root and her spleen are connected through a channel. And then she also has a defined will center, which is fairly rare for projectors.

[00:28:34] So we love that. And she has a defined identity center, but the will in identity center are defined on their own mm-hmm not connected to the spleen and root. Yeah. So then, so definition, baby. Yeah. Split definition. And whereas mine, my spleen gets defined because it connects to the, my, I, my [00:29:00] defined identity sender, which is defined because it is defined by the throat and then the Ana.

[00:29:06] So I have single definition, Ana throat identity, spleen. So Alexandra's chart is a little bit more. Bottom based definition where mine is more upper based definition. So this is almost more confirming to me, the notion that maybe that defined root center huge has a lot to do with the way that you are feeling your your information mm-hmm, your hits mm-hmm because for me it doesn't feel that body at all.

[00:29:40] mm-hmm it it's more of, it really does feel like more of a knowing mm-hmm it feels more of like, it's an I thing, like, yes, I need to go this way. Yes. It, if I. [00:30:00] I really just wanna speak through the identity center. This is it's really what it is like. It it's such a, like, this is for me. And it's, it's, it's quite chest, I guess, if I had to really try to pinpoint where I feel it in my body, it is more in the center of my chest.

[00:30:21] Alexandra: Like a heart chakra situation, heart chakra

[00:30:23] Alexandria: area. Yes mm-hmm yes. Mm-hmm because my mind is also highly activated in this process too. So I would, I would explain it to be a bit more on the claircognizant yes. clairvoyant type feeling it. And it is, it just feels like, so

[00:30:45] it, I guess the only thing I have is knowing it's just like, I, I know now. Yeah. And that knowing is. Not always comforting. And I think that that's really important to [00:31:00] share.

[00:31:00] Alexandra: And I think that's true, no matter how you feel your splenic authority is that because the splenic authority, like I said, right, it's, it's that kind of even keeled, like, yeah, everything's cool until it's not, or until I need something and needing something, you know, can be a good thing or a bad thing.

[00:31:17] And, you know, just because something becomes not status quo, you know, it, it can be like, oh, this is better. Or this is this, this is not good. Right. Mm-hmm that makes a lot of sense for you that you would feel it in your, in energetically, in your chest center. Just being that like where the, that the G and.

[00:31:38] And the heart center were, we're the heart shock room they split. Right, right. That whole like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We can just put that outside. We, yeah, we'll just move. But your spleen informs your sense of self, right? Mm-hmm so, whereas in my definition, and, and I think that this comes down to like how we look at the energy mechanics of the chart, right?

[00:31:58] Yeah. Is like, [00:32:00] it's not, they're not the centers don't move around. They're not jumbled. They are in very specific places and they relate to Vadix shocker systems for a reason. Right. So mm-hmm my roots center informs my splenic center and vice versa. They are very bottom heavy. They are very rooted. They're very grounded.

[00:32:18] They're very, yes. In my physical body and in my physical environment or physical, like people and whatnot whereas for you I wish there was another word, like I clear Cnce makes sense, but like there's not a word that means like that I, that you were describing. Yeah. You know, that like intuitive.

[00:32:42] I, I know and yeah, it makes a lot of sense that you would feel it there if anywhere in your body, because it's informing your, your sense of self and identity, whereas that is totally not what's informing myself sense of self and identity . Yeah.

[00:32:58] Alexandria: And, and this [00:33:00] is making me think of it's that sound the way I explained the way I feel, it sounds really fam really close to how a lot of sources describe the ego authority.

[00:33:14] Alexandra: And I was thinking of like self projected. I was also thinking of self projected projectors, which is interesting

[00:33:19] Alexandria: yeah. I, I definitely know that it in includes the body. I C cuz I, I can't feel it. It, I guess it does kind of go down a little bit more. Sometimes. Actually most of the time. Okay. Actually. Yes. At first. Cool. Maybe I need to revise what I said. No, I love it. I love the like at first. Yeah, it is very like, oh, I need to go this way.

[00:33:45] That, that strong knowing very chest. But once I've sat in that reality for a half a second, there is a deep resonance that just like go yes.

[00:33:57] Alexandra: plummets down to the root yes. [00:34:00] I think the resonance too is something that is not talked about in splenic authority, but it's like when you do it, there is a resonance.

[00:34:06] It's like there's the splenic authority will tell you to do something and it's not always logical mm-hmm . And it will tell you, whereas like a sacral authority can respond. Uhha Uhuh and, and an emotional authority. Can't give you a response. At all, it just helps to inform your decision making mm-hmm cause then you can make the correct decision for you over time.

[00:34:29] When you feel emotionally neutral about something mm-hmm splenic authority. When you follow it, there is a confirmation. Yeah.

[00:34:38] Alexandria: That resonance is not subtle. Like, no, it, all of the other sources that are talking about how soft and subtle and quiet it is, that's why they're saying that is because that residence piece has been left out of the equation.

[00:34:57] How you, the residence is so deep.

[00:34:59] Alexandra: [00:35:00] Yes. How do you feel the res do you feel the residence in your body and how do you feel it? Yeah, it's

[00:35:05] Alexandria: it is it's very root, like, mm. Like it, it, I feel that in the root chakra for sure. And it's like it's also also depending how big the. Decision is mm-hmm sometimes that resonance can like blow me, physically blow me back.

[00:35:24] Like I have to sit down mm-hmm

[00:35:29] Alexandra: mm-hmm yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm yep.

[00:35:35] Alexandria: Love it. But I would also say so I would love your input on this too. I didn't have this, that strength of resonance before knowing about human design though. It, yeah, it wasn't until really going on this deconditioning journey, really understanding on a deeper level, what the authority really is, what it does, et [00:36:00] cetera.

[00:36:00] I didn't have those strong feelings before.

[00:36:04] Alexandra: Mm, yes. I would also say that it. I can't identify a moment. Well, I've definitely had moments prior to learning about my design prior to working with it, that I felt like I was in the right place at the right time. And I felt that resonance, like, I, I know I made the right decision here,

[00:36:36] but I wasn't paying close enough attention to where that resonance was really stemming from. I think mm-hmm and like I said, after getting the language of human design, it felt very validating that I can, oh yes. Let me. And I, I was, it was like, oh, I can rely on my intuition, but of course, like I had [00:37:00] to build it.

[00:37:00] I had to practice it. Mm-hmm and I, I guess that's where this language of like, oh, it's very soft comes in is because like, yeah. So if you haven't been using it, it's not, you're not accustomed to it. And the more you use it, the less you can go without it, I find yes, mm-hmm yeah, it just starts to replace other things.

[00:37:23] I still think logically about things, you know, I still have, oh my gosh. Like all kinds of like brainstorming spreadsheets, all the, the pros and cons for sure. But I know that also. And, and I think that's correct. If you have a lot of like first line energy in your chart, mm-hmm if you have, for example Like a fear mind, which again, not an empowering word, but like right.

[00:37:50] Fear is about in information. Mm-hmm fear, just, just in it inspires you to ask questions. It, it motivates you to, to get [00:38:00] the gather information. And,

[00:38:01] Alexandria: Let's also make note that among other things, the spleen really is here to teach us how to push through fear in yeah.

[00:38:08] In some

[00:38:08] Alexandra: capacities. Sure. But I, I also wanna say that fear is not something to be I, I don't believe that fear is anything to be overcome or, or done away with in any, yeah. Any way, shape or form, you know, like what I was trying to say is that fear is a tool and fear is a tool that you can use with yourself without letting it Drive the actual decision that you make or the choice you make.

[00:38:34] Right.

[00:38:35] Alexandria: Which is really what is meant when we say push through the fear and do it anyway.

[00:38:42] Alexandra: Yeah. To let it to face it, let it wash over, you know, it mm-hmm and be able to say like, ah, I'm still going to do this thing. Right. Or I now understand, like, that fear has now made me ask certain questions. So I have more information and I know what I need to do now.

[00:38:59] [00:39:00] Yes. Yes. Mm-hmm mm-hmm . Yeah. And I think the spleen as a fear center you know, it's really scary when you say that to folks, you know, they're like, oh God, what does that? Oh, no. You know, and it's it's very like, oh, you've got a fear of the past. You've got a fear of this and that. Okay, cool. Well, if, for example, you have gate 44 defined, and so you've got this like potential fear of the past that can inform your decision making.

[00:39:23] Right. Mm-hmm knowing. Go ahead. How

[00:39:26] Alexandria: have you noticed your gate 44 come into play?

[00:39:30] Alexandra: Yeah, so I definitely had for a long time, a lot of shadow around anything that would've happened in, not that I was like a particularly terrible person in my past, but like that any misstep that I made would haunt me forever.

[00:39:47] And I think I grew up in, you know, as a young person, as a teenager, into my twenties, very much a perfectionist, very very set on, on this is my, this is my [00:40:00] direction and I'm going to do it perfectly. Not only am I moving this direction, but I'm going to do this perfectly because if I don't do it perfectly, nothing will happen or it won't be good or this and that.

[00:40:08] And that putting all that pressure on yourself one is really debilitating and it also like. Eliminates the ability to learn because you, you shut down the learning. Oh, wasn't good. Oh, throw it away, throw it away. Right. And, and hide it. Right. Because it might come back and bite you in the ass. And now I look at that fear of like, oh, my past is really so informative.

[00:40:35] And like, instead of it instead of like a fear of the past, now I have more when, when it comes up and it's like, oh, but this happened. So like, what if you repeat this pattern, you know? And now I look at it and go, well, okay, let's look at that. Let's ask the question, you know, am I going to repeat this pattern?

[00:40:54] You know, what did I learn from this experience? The fear is just really there to like, bring something up to the surface and be like, Hey, have you [00:41:00] considered, do you remember this? Can you have you considered it? You know, I love gate 50 as well is one that I, I don't personally have, but gate 50 is the gate of values.

[00:41:08] Right. And it's yes. I thought you did and it's the fear of taking on too much responsibility. And having something like that means that every time you start a new project or you engage or you move into those course altering decisions, that fear might come up for you of am I taking on too much responsibility?

[00:41:27] Great. Now you get to look at it and go yes or no. It's just a check in. It's a way the spleen is just that those fears I think are really just there to be like, Hey, just wanna make sure, like, you tend to, you might have a tendency to do this, so we're just gonna check in here. Like, is that, is that still true?

[00:41:43] Alexandria: So then, okay, so my gate of details, let's just like let's fish through this. So. When you have a we'll just use some of the common terminology when you have a splenic hit that you need to go X, Y, Z direction. [00:42:00] Sure. Do you ever feel it like, oh, the fear of the past is coming up and that might make you not go the way that your spleen tells you, is that one way that it works for you or does it, yes.

[00:42:15] Okay. Yes. Can you

[00:42:16] Alexandra: speak to that? Yes. I would say that the fears come up almost as limitations to listening to my splenic authority. I would not say that those fears trigger or that the splenic authority. Yeah. I would say that those fears don't trigger my splenic authority that like they're not driving the splenic authority.

[00:42:35] The spleen is then triggering these fears. Like the spleen telling me to do something then triggers these fears, which then. Could in the, and in the past would've stopped me maybe from doing something intuitively like a fear of the past really did. And I, I'm trying to think of something specific, but I know that that was, that, that has been a pattern for me of like I also have a, a Scorpio stellium and so it took a long [00:43:00] time for me to be okay with being vulnerable and sharing my secrets and knowing that like my past is not shameful.

[00:43:09] You know, the fact that I spent time and an inpatient mental facility is not shameful. You know, every negative experience that I've had is not, there's no, there's no shame around it and it's not going to stop me from moving forward. And I think that that fear of the past is like you know, I, for a long time had a lot of hangups around Oh, gosh, I don't, I mean, I, I could go through so many things, right.

[00:43:36] Like we all have, have shit that we did that we're like, oh God, like, like on the DUI, like, is that gonna come bug me in the ass? Well, look, you know, you can't go to Canada for 10 years, but like every, you know, like it, it's not. Yeah. Okay. So I another, yeah, like I got a DUI when I was 24. So when I was getting my license to be a massage therapist, I had to claim that on every, [00:44:00] every single time I got a license in a new state I had to, to claim it.

[00:44:05] I had to give them all the paperwork. And I do have to say that like after the second time, it really wasn't that bad. I was like . Yep. Just so you're informed. And it, it, that fear stopped me from, I, I think at the beginning, I know I didn't, I was like, well, I'm just gonna hide. Maybe it won't come up. They won't, that's not like on my record.

[00:44:26] But it totally was And so that fear immediately, this very,

[00:44:29] Alexandria: very big thing is totally

[00:44:31] Alexandra: not on. So in my defense, I really, I was told it had been expunged. Got it. So when I went to get my very first massage therapist license, it was

[00:44:43] four years, three, three years after the event. And I had been told by my lawyer at the time that it had, it was expunged. So I applied for a massage therapist license, no big deal. Didn't even think about it. And then [00:45:00] they. You know, sent me the letter and was like, sorry, you've been denied because we discovered this DUI on your record and we need more information now here's the thing.

[00:45:09] They just needed more information about it. Like, but immediately my like, oh, this was it. Oh, your past is coming. Oh, you'll never move forward because this stupid DUI and it took some work and it took like, okay, doing some legwork, getting all the information from Louisiana, which is a fucking mess. And then learning, oh, it hadn't been expunged.

[00:45:31] Oh, okay. This is what this means. Okay. This is now how I do this. But I think that.

[00:45:39] Then when I got the intuition to like move and then apply to a new state for licensure, the intuition of, oh, maybe that'll come bite you in the ass again. And I was like, yeah, but we've already done that. Like it's okay. The third time, yep. That came up again and it was like, oh, it might stop you. No, it never does.

[00:45:56] Here's the thing like your, [00:46:00] your past is your past. And like you are allowed to be a changed person. You are allowed to, to make amends and, and move forward with your life. But I think that fear of the past is really rooted in guilt and shame. It's not actually the event, right. Mm-hmm, , it's really the guilt and shame.

[00:46:18] That's gonna stop us from doing things. Mm-hmm Did that answer your question? I think I totally, I went off on a whole tangent about

[00:46:25] that's

[00:46:25] Alexandria: great. But I do wanna recap a little bit because we have hit on at least two big points of if you're really starting to just start on your journey with figuring out the splenic authority thing.

[00:46:42] Yeah. We gave some, two very specific points of reference and that is first what channel? Or like what, what other center is connected to your spleen? Yeah. That is going to inform a lot of how you feel it mm-hmm so [00:47:00] understanding the nature of those other centers, which really the only way that it could be through is the root, the identity center, the will center and the throat

[00:47:12] Alexandra: and, and the throat.

[00:47:13] Yep. Which. I mean, so I was able to personally speak to the root and you to the G mm-hmm you know, and from what I, I have learned. And, and when I work with folks who, who have those other, other centers to find you know, asplenic, manifestors somebody who has their well, and I guess, you know, you can also be a spleen projector with your spleen connected to your throat because your spleen's not a motor

[00:47:38] Right. But having the spleen connected to the throat, you know, I think that that's going to be you're, you're going to experience that more through an actual action or a a, not a desire, but like a, more than a need mm-hmm, an intuitive communication and intuitive, you know, your voice mm-hmm is going [00:48:00] to be very intuitive.

[00:48:01] And it

[00:48:02] Alexandria: not necessarily. Being that self projected operation though,

[00:48:08] Alexandra: correct? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Be unless you are defined to of course the G center as well, mm-hmm but yes, experiencing that in the throat. I would also say that like, you probably

[00:48:20] Alexandra: experience that sense of intuition, like a rising, you know, like the image of like Ariel when her voice is coming out and it's just that glowing ball, like that would be spleen to throat definition, you know, mm-hmm , you would feel it in the body that way.

[00:48:34] Whereas like spleen to will center and the will center is I would love to talk about the will center because it is so, and this is a nother conversation. It is so strong. And so it can be so conditioning to any type. But to have your spleen connected to the will center, that's specifically through that 44 to 26 channel mm-hmm

[00:48:55] And that I, I, I feel like when [00:49:00] you have that channel one it's a juicy channel. It's a juicy channel. and integrity is a huge foundation of your authority. Mm-hmm are you in your integrity? Yeah. And it's very easy when you have that channel defined and that is your strongest channel. I would say like what, you know, if, if you have, maybe that's the only channel you have or, or the other ones that you have are you know, cause some channels are a little softer, some channels just aren't really, you know?

[00:49:35] Yeah. But I would say that. If you had that channel and a defined route, like say your roots defined to your spleen and, and then that spleen defines to the, the heart center that way. You might find it a little easier to be in your integrity, but without that root center, it's really important that when you are operating with other people through contracts, [00:50:00] agreements, partnerships, that you are explicit in your expectations and that you only operate to those expectations.

[00:50:14] Like mm-hmm, , I feel like that channel can very easily initiate. It's super powerful and can be so influential in a really healthy way, as long as the individual is maintaining their integrity. And it's also really easy to lie to ourselves. Right? Mm-hmm so checking in with your not self checking in with those undefined centers.

[00:50:35] Like, am I really like, am I operating from an undefined throat here? Am I just not feeling recognized? And so I wanna do this thing and I can say, I, it just makes me think of this conversation I had with somebody who was talking about this total emotional mess that they were in like a love triangle nonsense.

[00:50:52] And they kept saying like but I've been in my integrity the whole time. And I just kept thinking like, [00:51:00] you.

[00:51:04] I would love to know how you are defining your integrity. mm-hmm because what I'm seeing is like, they were, you know, they were like the peak of this love triangle and, and they kept saying, I'm in my integrity, I'm in my integrity. And I said, well, okay, well, what do you want out of this? Do both parties know that that's what you want.

[00:51:23] And have you been very clear with both people that that's what you want and are you operating only within the confines of that instead of like, you know, two other people's desires and expectations, right? Mm-hmm , that's just taking personal responsibility. Yeah. But I love it. I love, love that channel.

[00:51:42] It's

[00:51:43] Alexandria: so good. It is a good channel. Yeah. Okay. . So recap one is the centers that are connected to your Splain. Those are the centers that you're probably going to be feeling when you're feeling your intuitive hits. Yeah. The other thing that we mentioned is that the hanging [00:52:00] gates that you have off of the spleen mm-hmm can be red flags, I would say, as in, yeah.

[00:52:08] Those are the things that might make you not follow that hit because of the fear that resides in those hanging gates.

[00:52:16] Alexandra: Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm for sure, for sure. But I think those fears, right, and, and this is what we said, right? Is that those fears are there to inspire your. Inquisitiveness that your acquisition,

[00:52:29] Alexandria: right?

[00:52:29] This is where the balance of intuition and logic comes in. Sure. Because you are going to use Bo like that is a, a hill that I will die on. Is that to be intuitive doesn't mean that you're not logical and to be logical doesn't mean you're not intuitive. You do use both, but there is an order of which it operates mm-hmm and you're gonna have that intuitive hit first mm-hmm and then those fear gates are probably gonna be like, but this thing, and then you can use your logic to [00:53:00] say, okay, I hear you fear.

[00:53:02] Mm-hmm I hear that you're afraid of the past. I hear that you're afraid of the future. I hear that you're afraid of responsibility, authority, all the other things, but here's how we're gonna get through that. This is the information that we need from that fear so that we can move forward instead of getting remaining constricted by that fear

[00:53:24] Alexandra: mm-hmm mm-hmm.

[00:53:26] Yeah. Yeah. I think that those hanging gates, you know, just like you said too, like we are here to learn from our fear mm-hmm, it's here to teach us you know, and, and I, I love it. You know, I love talking to folks who have specifically like fear motivation, you know, and I'm like, oh, that sounds terrible.

[00:53:44] Or you know, and it's, it's like, well, actually you're meant to just gather a ton of info. Like mm-hmm, , don't worry about like, eliminate like the right answer. You know, if you have fear motivation, which is a whole nother conversation, I know, but you, you're here to gather the information. You're not, you don't need to worry about [00:54:00] eliminating it too much.

[00:54:01] And as a splenic authority, you're naturally gathering all the information that you need as long as you can tune into it and pay attention to what is coming up for you out of that information. You know, and the only time when it doesn't feel logical is when I, for me at least is when I'm paying attention to something that when I'm, when I'm hyper focused on something that is very like mundane material, not you know, when I've got the blinders on and I'm like trying to just a, just do this one thing, you know, whether it's like writing a blog post or, or something like that, you know what I mean?

[00:54:42] Like driving even mm-hmm I've started relax into my splenic authority when I drive and it's changed a lot of things. Considering I'm a person that grew. Driving around Boston. So if you know anything about east coast drivers, [00:55:00] I've relaxed a lot since moving to the west coast.

[00:55:03] Alexandria: wow. That, I think that's a huge like pro for, for the splenic authority.

[00:55:11] It's a pro for everybody. Really? Yeah. It really is. Yeah. Okay. I kind of want, I wanna wrap it up, but also there's at least like two more things that I really wanna talk about and I'm here for it and that is the okay. Actually let's like hit on the main things that you hear about it. So first off the it's only, for course alter course altering decisions.

[00:55:37] Yes. Where that is true. Do you recognize for you personally, does the splenic authority come into play for smaller things? Sure.

[00:55:50] Alexandra: Oh my gosh. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about it. Absolutely. I would also say that like my splenic authority

[00:55:56] you know, in the same way that Sacral authority can help you make a decision about [00:56:00] where to eat for dinner or what to have. If someone's asking you questions, my splenic authority can tell me exactly what I need. I'm also, you know, again, you wanna take in your determination into consideration in this. But I find that I'm a really, it's easy for me to be an intuitive eat.

[00:56:16] It's really easy. And again, like with all splenic authority, it's like, oh, when I let, when I let my mind and my ego just sit in the seat and like be a passenger and let the body decide, I know what I'm hungry for. I know what I need in my body, whether it's protein or sugar or fat or fiber, or, you know, certain vegetable I've started getting so into my intuitive eating that I know whether I need a steak, like from a steak or iron from a from broccoli, you know, and those two things usually they're interchangeable.

[00:56:50] But every once in a while, I'm like, no, I really need like a bison steak or no, actually I really need the broccoli. Cause I also need that green. Right. I [00:57:00] need that. Like, was that vitamin a anyway, whatever it is, it's it's I might not even know specifically what the thing is that I need. but the food immediately is like, my body knows.

[00:57:15] I start to salivate with the, with, when the idea comes into my mind. Mm-hmm I start to salivate around it. And then if someone suggests something else, I'm like, no, I know that that's not like it'll drain. It's like, no, mm-hmm

[00:57:29] Alexandria: I don't want that. Yeah. Mm-hmm , I'm definitely recognizing that here lately, too.

[00:57:34] Probably not. Specific as what you're explaining, but I can, I definitely notice I can at least identify if I should not. Or like, if that my body doesn't want

[00:57:47] Alexandra: something totally. That's how it started for me. Mm-hmm , that is absolutely how it started for me. And I think like will splenic authority, the more you practice it and the more you lean into it, the louder and the more specific it [00:58:00] becomes mm-hmm it is a

[00:58:01] Alexandria: muscle that's, I, it is a muscle.

[00:58:02] I always tell people that like, just even thinking about intuition generally and not even applying it to splenic authority, intuition is a muscle like it's, it's repetition. It's it's really settling into the fact that you're gonna start trusting it and then acting on that trust.

[00:58:21] Alexandra: Yeah, not it, so no not

[00:58:23] Alexandria: testing.

[00:58:24] Yeah. Testing testing is how you get confused. Yeah. Like. Don't just, yeah. Or the, the only time, the closest thing that I will do to testing is knowing that my spleen is telling me one thing and actively choosing the opposite thing, knowing that is, it is the wrong thing. Sometimes I will do that if I feel that it's necessary, but it's kind of rare.

[00:58:51] Alexandra: Sometimes I literally just had a, I saw your body. You're like, no, why? No, no. Told me to do something I'm gonna, [00:59:00]

[00:59:00] Alexandria: I know I, I hear you. And,

[00:59:04] Alexandra: but again,

[00:59:05] Alexandria: this, but that is, that can be a part of your experiment. If you feel that that's necessary

[00:59:10] Alexandra: for your experiment a hundred percent, especially if you've got some third line energy in there, please experiment with it because not, you know, failing is how you learn, right?

[00:59:22] Yeah. That's how we learn what not to do. Mm-hmm just because one thing succeeds, you know, it's, it's really scientific just because one thing succeed doesn't mean something else won't also succeed, right? Yeah. So like you try a bunch of things and you get more information from process of elimination than from success.

[00:59:40] Right. Mm-hmm mm-hmm

[00:59:42] Alexandria: yeah. Okay. Now let's speak specifically to the, in the moment identification. Okay. So it is often taught that the spleen is an in the moment decision maker. That's that's your truth, right then, [01:00:00] blah, blah, blah. If you don't follow it, you're fucked. No but kinda yes. And right. So, so let's speak to that.

[01:00:08] The first thing that I really wanna just say about it is that yes, it's in the moment, but that doesn't, but. If for some reason you didn't follow what was there in the moment, because either you didn't quite recognize that you even had a hit or whatever it is, it that moment, it, that moment will never happen again.

[01:00:29] But a new moment in the same vein will happen and it might be a different hit at that time. It might be different information.

[01:00:39] Alexandra: Yes. Yeah. I, 100% agree with that. You know, like we said, the spinning authority is constantly filtering information. So if you get a hit and you, I would say actually, when you said that, like that might be something where I don't test my intuition, but I might not listen to it for whatever reason.

[01:00:59] And [01:01:00] usually when I don't, I have to have an internal dialogue with myself where I'm like, okay, I hear you. I'm going to make this choice for whatever reason. And my higher self is always just like, like, I can feel all my guides and my helpers just like, oh, for crying out loud, like it's no better.

[01:01:18] Alexandria: Oh, you wanna take this little detour in your path?

[01:01:21] Okay. Fine.

[01:01:23] Alexandra: Yes, exactly. Yeah. Fine take this detour. But yes, like you said there will always be another, another branching, another option another fork where you have, where your spleen will tell you to do something, or you have an opportunity to make a decision and your spleen will let you know what the correct decision is in that moment.

[01:01:43] And yes, it can be different because you've gathered information. So I think this also speaks to something that you and I have talked about outside of this podcast, which is that your path. A detour isn't [01:02:00] even a detour. It is also your path, right? Mm-hmm . But every time there is a branching, every time there's a forking in your path, both options are for you or any.

[01:02:14] The multitude of options are for you. It's which one you choose mm-hmm . And we can make decisions that teach us specific lessons consciously. We can make those decisions and unconsciously, we can make those decisions. We can also make decisions that lead us closer to what we desire. And more often than not.

[01:02:43] When we are clear in what we desire as a splenic authority, the spleen will continue to lead you toward that expansion towards what you desire. , but again, it may not look like what you think it's going to look like to get you there. [01:03:00] Mm-hmm mm-hmm right? Yeah.

[01:03:02] Alexandria: It's yes. It's, it's really vital

[01:03:11] that when you begin to follow your splenic authority, or even just your intuition sit in this conversation, same thing. It's, it's so vital to really let go of your need, quote, unquote, need to rationalize intellectualize all of these things and to, to, to even try to play the game of, okay. Will I listened to this hit and you know, maybe turned left instead of turning, right?

[01:03:43] And then. I I've done this so many times. I know I'm not the only one I turned left instead of going. Right. And then I started looking at news stories. Like, did anything happen on that road? Like, did I avoid something?

[01:03:54] Alexandra: Oh yeah. Did I avoid something? Did I miss something? Mm-hmm and it's like, [01:04:00] oh my God. So if the splenic authority, if you can learn one thing, when you first find out you have splenic authority, it is presence.

[01:04:10] Yeah. And really this is for everybody. Yeah. Whether it's splenic, Sacral, emotional. Yeah. For, even for emotional people, when there's no truth in the, now you still need to be present with it. Mm-hmm right. Because you're gonna get more information from all those emotions, but with splenic authority, your presence is, so it is imperative to being able to follow that authority because it is in the present moment.

[01:04:40] Right. So like, thinking about what could have happened is. Yeah, sure. Like that's kind of fun it's, you know? But even,

[01:04:48] Alexandria: so even in that example though, like it is such a fools errand to try to do that because, you know, heaven forbid [01:05:00] a car accident is only one of the million things that you might have avoided or should have happened or whatever.

[01:05:10] Yeah. We so often try to like, make these things so large and even like large in the context of our life. So like oh, okay. So since I turned left, did I. Actually like meet a new person, that's gonna end up being my soulmate. Like it doesn't even have to be that big. It could have been, you turned left so that you could see this particular flower because that made you happy that day.

[01:05:42] Like, it can be so small, so small. So it's just not, it's really not helpful to try to go through. Okay. Well, because I like, okay. It's not helpful to find proof. That's really

[01:05:59] Alexandra: what I mean. No, [01:06:00] you don't need to validate your choices. You're no. Or you don't need to validate the splenic hit mm-hmm you, it doesn't need validation.

[01:06:09] It doesn't need proof. It doesn't need justification. It just is. And you can choose not to listen to it, go for it, go for it. Like do experiment with that and, and see how you feel. , you know, it's not about what happens as much as how you feel like you could be somebody who you know, begins to acquire all of the things that socially denotes success and yet, you know, or like, you know I don't know, socially is the right word, but like yeah.

[01:06:42] You know? Sure. Externally, right. And yet, are you happy? Are you, are you feeling fulfilled? Are you are you actually moving towards what you desire? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I used to play those kinds of games [01:07:00] with myself where I would justify before I, I learned about human design where I would like justify my intuition or, or try to validate it or And, and even, you know, when we talk about looking in hindsight there, I am like doing it.

[01:07:13] You know, like I think about this one moment when I I was moving to a new place and I I was visiting for the second time to like, look for rental properties and I got off the airplane and I'm going down the escalator to the, you know, whatever to meet my partner in package, claim, whatever. And I got this entire body, like, as the escalator descended, like hair on the back of my neck stood up this immediate and this voice was turn and run, turn and run.

[01:07:46] And my whole body went stiff. And I started looking around, I started looking for like, I started looking for like a homegrown terrorist. Like I started looking for somebody like dropping off a bag that looked suspicious, or, you know what I'm saying? Like I [01:08:00] started looking around an airport for things that like, would.

[01:08:04] Justify me feeling so scared for like a quick moment and my body telling me to turn and turn and, and it wasn't turn and run. Excuse me. It was, it was yep. It was turn and run. And yet the image was me running back up the escalator, right. Like back towards the plane. And now in hindsight, I know, and I experienced then this like general uneasiness for the rest of the time, which I like, you know, tried to squash.

[01:08:37] But I know that that's, that, that place wasn't correct. For me, it was a really unhealthy place for me to live. I made the choice to live there and I will tell you. Detour, I'm doing air quotes. If you can't see it. That detour that I made actually resolved a lot of things for me and taught me some new things and I wouldn't have started [01:09:00] diving so deeply into my human design.

[01:09:02] Had I not made that choice to stay mm-hmm now, does that mean, I wouldn't have learned about human design some other way, or like gotten more into my human design? Some other way, maybe I would've had similar experiences in different, in a different place maybe, but like, it doesn't matter like that year.

[01:09:21] What is a part of my story? Even though my intuition was letting me know, not for you. okay. Right. I'ma do, I'ma do it anyway. and, and I did, and now I realize that like, oh, perhaps I will listen next time. And. Perhaps what will happen is I will get a shortcut. I don't know. Yeah. Mm-hmm but yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't serve me to be like, oh, you know, how much money would I have saved?

[01:09:54] Or like paying or whatever. It's not, yeah. That's not [01:10:00] worth it. No, because no, it's not. I can still justify that I gained enough from that experience. Yeah. So like, and there's also

[01:10:07] Alexandria: ways absolutely. No way to get that answer. Totally. Zero .

[01:10:15] Okay. So how have you seen your splenic authority play a role in your business?

[01:10:21] Alexandra: Hmm.

[01:10:22] I would say that I definitely see my strategy. You know, and I don't know if we haven't really touched on this yet. Didn't the relationship is a good spot. Yeah. The relationship between strategy and authority, because I see that You know, when it comes to my own business. And I'm one of those weirdos, who's done a chart for my business.

[01:10:41] So I'm interacting with this entity. I think of my business as an entity. It helps me to it really helps me to focus in, on it in a different way to care about it. More, to be more engaged with it to think about it as a, as an entity. So thankfully my business is also a [01:11:00] projector, so there's that

[01:11:01] and I find that like, you know, as a projector with a strategy of, to be invited Having the business that I have that is service based where I also have room for creative expression that people can opt into, right. That's an invitation. They, they, they are inviting me. My clients invite me in, they invite my perspective.

[01:11:23] And so in doing that when I'm making decisions for me within the business is when I notice my splenic authority, more making decisions for my business,

[01:11:37] as it just relates to the business itself. I don't know if this is making sense, but that actually is more kind of found over time. My business is an emotional project. So that's kind of found over time and through kind of waiting, like, I might have an idea I'm gonna play around with it a little bit [01:12:00] before I like just go with it and launch it.

[01:12:03] I need to like, sit with it, chew it up a little bit. But that's because I treat my business, not as myself, mm-hmm I am a part of my business. And so when I am engaging with it, sometimes I need to make a decision for me. And that's what my splenic authority comes in. Mm-hmm so when it's, you know, when I receive an invitation, like to be on a podcast yes, it's my business, but like, I am the voice of the business.

[01:12:31] I am, I'm also the face. Right. So so my splenic intuition comes into play there. Mm-hmm And I will know if it's correct for me to do that. Mm-hmm, , I'm trying to think if there's ever been a situation where something felt correct for me, but not correct for my business. And what I can think of is different collaborations with folks on creative projects, some creative projects are not correct for my business, but they're correct for me to do mm-hmm and so I separate myself from the [01:13:00] business in that way.

[01:13:01] Got it. Got it. So yeah, like yeah. Mm-hmm does that, that makes sense. Kind of, yeah. Yeah. So like I will author other things or I will, you know, it's, it's Alexandra of honored body, but like it's not on our body authoring this thing. Yeah. Or making this thing.

[01:13:19] So

[01:13:19] Alexandria: do you think,

[01:13:24] so this is obviously the way that you go about your business. Your business is a separate entity of you mm-hmm so there's two different authorities at play. But do you think that, that,

[01:13:39] I don't know. I guess I just wanna talk a little bit about just like, should, should we do it that way? Or like what's the pros and cons of doing it that way versus like your business is you, is

[01:13:50] Alexandra: you totally, I think it really depends on your business structure and what feels good to you. Mm-hmm you know, the more, the deeper I get into my business, the more of me [01:14:00] goes into it.

[01:14:00] And so the more I am relating to it in a splenic way. And it, I think when it comes to Offerings and, you know, like, like I said, I am a big part of the business, so yes. When it comes to my services that I offer, a lot of that is on intuition. Yes. Yes. Mm-hmm I will, I can, I can. Where is that, that I'm looking for, but I can validate that.

[01:14:26] Yes. But

[01:14:27] Alexandria: you're speaking the, the differentiation between you and the business is really coming into the new invitations that co that arise, like that's where you find it helpful to separate the two

[01:14:44] Alexandra: Ooh

[01:14:44] new invitations and also in growth, you know, looking at the direction that it's going. I will definitely. Intuitive hits about ideas for my business. And I [01:15:00] will kind of, what I do is I, like, I have a, I love my whiteboard. And so I like go through the like planning and the brainstorming of it. And I like throw it out there and I let it sit for a while and I just see like what kind of a Pope comes out of that, you know, mm-hmm

[01:15:18] Yeah. I, I very rarely make a split decision like a splenic. You know, I'm not like a flash sale, kind of a person I'm not that's just not who I am. Mm-hmm Yeah. I, I don't know if I'm answering your

[01:15:33] Alexandria: question in properly. It does. And I'll try to recap that. So it sounds like yes, new invitations is where those authorities get kind of split. But also in the direction that you're guiding your business to go, that's, that's how it's relevant and helpful for you, Alexandra to have it, your business, being a separate entity of yourself, [01:16:00] be as opposed to someone who they think of their business as themselves.

[01:16:07] And so all of their driving forward as going to be through their own authority. So if they do have that splenic kit to do that you know, flash sale, they're gonna do that. But your, it sounds like the way that you go about it is more of. When you're sitting down for like a CEO day or something to that effect, you're tuning in specifically to the businesses, authority, strategy, definition, et

[01:16:39] Alexandra: cetera.

[01:16:40] Oh, let me clarify. Not necessarily. Not necessarily. No, no. Because I am such a big part of my business. Got it. But I think for me, it's really important and, and it's, maybe it's, it's important, but it's not something that I've ever really articulated until now, but I'm a person first. I'm a person first.

[01:16:59] [01:17:00] I happen to have a business, but I'm a person first. That doesn't mean that like, I can just willy-nilly do what I want with my business. That doesn't, that's not congruent, but it does mean that

[01:17:13] I wanna make, or, or I will make decisions that are good for me.

[01:17:21] Bef, if that even I will make decisions that are good for me generally, if, even if that is maybe not with the business needs, I, I feel like I need to get really specific because if I speak to generally, it's not going to be correct. Mm-hmm , it is very specific to every spec, every different decision, you know, mm-hmm, like okay.

[01:17:44] For example you know, if I'm at a place, you know, and, and I'm coming into this where I'm growing, I am. Shopping for physical locations. I am the one going around and feeling out these locations, I'm going to know in my [01:18:00] splenic authority, if something is correct or not, if it's the right space or not, mm-hmm, , I'm not gonna like take an, you know, I'm gonna take time to yeah.

[01:18:09] Consult my budget. And like, really look at like the, the logic here, but I will know in my splenic authority first, if it is a place that my business will thrive and be good in, I will know that in my splenic authority first. So in that way, yes, I'm using my splenic authority for my business. Mm-hmm I do find that there are things that I, and I think this comes, this is where the me as a person first comes in in that, like, I'm not

[01:18:44] Part of my, one of my core beliefs is that we aren't here to be businesses. Mm-hmm your purpose is not your career and vice versa necessarily. Can they inform each other? Sure. [01:19:00] Can they be like on track with each other? Sure. But we're people first. And so

[01:19:11] being able to differentiate between, is this a decision that's correct for me? Or is this a decision that's correct. For my business is the discernment. I think that, that I use.

[01:19:24] Alexandria: Okay. So it sounds like if you can feel that tho what's correct. For you versus for your business are two different things.

[01:19:37] You're going to err on the side of you if that ever

[01:19:44] Alexandra: arises. Yeah. Yeah. For example. Yeah. If there's something like a deadline or anything that I can navigate or negotiate yeah, I will err on like, because I am, I am the majority of the motor behind the business. Mm-hmm so I need [01:20:00] to be okay as a person I need to when I've go, been going through harder transitions.

[01:20:08] Do I let my, you know, do I let my business suffer? Do I, you know, and, and again, like I, like I said, I think this goes back to how you structure your business. Yeah. And I love being a person first and, and a business as well. And I'm loving that my business is becoming I'm, I'm infusing more me, me into my business because so much of it has been me and it's just been kind of me behind a curtain.

[01:20:36] Yeah. And so as that shift happens, will I be making more decisions for my business that are out of my splenic authority versus taking the time to move through emotions with it? Maybe? Yeah. Maybe mm-hmm I'm not there yet. And I been authority. So I can't tell you I'll know when the time is. Right, right,

[01:20:58] Alexandria: right.

[01:20:59] Okay. [01:21:00] Does that make sense? It does. It does. Yeah. Okay. I think that there's, I mean, I know that the authorities are different, but the strategies are the same. And I think that that really helps. And that's kind of my motivation in really trying to get more details from you on it. Because for example, my, my business is a generator Sacral generator, mm-hmm and I'm a splenic projector.

[01:21:25] So there are different strategies, different authorities, although the authorities are similar. So there, there is kind of a difference. And, and so I've found it more supportive sometimes to. I go in and out of treating it like a separate entity entity versus treating it as I'm my business, just because of that challenge of really bolstering that, that generator energy and the challenge [01:22:00] of navigating how those two things fit.

[01:22:02] Mm. I think that one day I'll get there and I can, I can see kind of that, not necessarily that timeline, but like those checkpoints of, of how that's gonna work. Mm-hmm but not really there yet. So, so at this

[01:22:24] Alexandra: point I'm more like yourself mm-hmm . Yeah, sure. But in that, in that sense, aren't you a person before you're a business.

[01:22:32] Are you a, a projector before? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah. Mm-hmm so like, and I think this is something that you talk a lot about well, because you, you are a projector in business, right? Mm-hmm and so you know, there's the old narrative of like, oh, projectors are only supposed to work this many hours a day or they're, you know, this is, this is what they can do and that's it.

[01:22:55] Mm-hmm and I think that that can get really muddy and, and like you [01:23:00] know, especially when you have different types of businesses, like not every projector is actually meant to be a coach or a guide or a, you know, like one on one service based mm-hmm business, you know? Yeah. And, and every,

[01:23:16] Alexandria: not every generator is here to do done for you

[01:23:20] Alexandra: services.

[01:23:21] No.

[01:23:21] Alexandria: No build and, you know, et cetera, et cetera. So,

[01:23:25] Alexandra: right. I'm right there with you. Yeah. Mm-hmm so yeah, in using your authority and your business you know, it sounds, it sounds like, or, or if you can elaborate on that a little bit, like, it sounds like you do use your splenic authority a lot in your business.

[01:23:41] 100,

[01:23:42] Alexandria: 100%. Yeah. Mm-hmm yeah. I, I rely more on my splenic authority rather than my businesses Sacralral. And, but where I'm currently at is finding the really magical place [01:24:00] between relying on your splenic authority and you know, the conventional business wisdom when you know, it's not right for you. Mm-hmm and allowing my authority to take precedence mm-hmm and And I also wanna make note, I feel like we've kind of said it, but not directly.

[01:24:18] Your splenic authority will take you to some logical places just because it's like, yeah, for sure. Intuition doesn't mean everything that it tells you is. I don't know, abstract something from another plan. Yes.

[01:24:35] Alexandra: Abstract yeah. Yeah. Oh, it will definitely take you to some logical places, especially, I will also say the more I practice with it, the more I've gotten into using my splenic authority, the more logical it seems to me because I'm tuning into, and I'm paying attention to the information that it's gathering and that it's mm-hmm providing me with.

[01:24:57] Yeah. So yeah, the logical answer [01:25:00] now for me, after years of practicing with it is usually the splenic answer, right? Yeah. They, they mm-hmm , you know, and then I'm like, okay, that's cool. Great. You know, like, is it a little validating sure. And an external sense, but I've also like, let go of a lot of that too.

[01:25:14] Mm-hmm that like, needing to be validated? Yeah. Yeah. I think, you know, using your, your own authority in, in business is definitely something that like is going to be correct for you depending on. The, the structure of your business and how you want to relate to it. I think that's,

[01:25:37] I don't know if that's something that you could have one rule for. I don't, so I think that's very individual mm-hmm . Yeah. And

[01:25:46] Alexandria: because you're also okay. If you don't have a business and you are an employee somewhere. Sure. I mean, you're, you're still, you are still guiding your own self within the [01:26:00] company that you work for.

[01:26:01] Yes. So you're still going to be using your authority for what you're doing

[01:26:05] Alexandra: there. Yes. While also

[01:26:07] Alexandria: taking

[01:26:07] Alexandra: direction. Yes. That's what I mean by like, you're a person first, even if you are your business, like, even if you are I was an actor for years, right? So like who I was and what my body, my face, every this the way I think.

[01:26:23] That was what was, I was what I was marketing as an actor. This is how I interpret this character, like me, Lexi as this character. Right. Mm-hmm and yet I'm still a person first, so I need to make decisions that are good for my personhood, because those will be good for my business because my business is me.

[01:26:42] Mm-hmm and I do think that like, yes, the more you, that your business is you do need to use your personal authority. Yes. So yes, I guess what I'm trying to say at the at the end of all, this is like, yes, I agree with you. Yes. I do use my authority [01:27:00] for making decisions in my business and for in, within my business and for my business.

[01:27:07] But not as a rule. Got

[01:27:10] Alexandria: it. Mm-hmm okay. Yeah. To close this out, I would love to know what are your top suggestions for someone just really starting in this journey of trusting, feeling their splenic authority? Mm-hmm

[01:27:26] Alexandra: I think we both really hit on it, which is play with it. Don't test it. You can play with it, don't test it.

[01:27:36] And that includes not wasting the time wondering what could have been if you didn't or if you had chosen something else. There's a lesson. If you study the I Ching, there is one of the first lessons is you always come to the Sage, to the I Ching in a state of. Modesty, and that's not necessarily humbleness, but it's modesty.

[01:27:59] It's not [01:28:00] coming with ego curiosity. And I feel like a lot of times when we play games with our intuition, that's ego curiosity, oh, I wonder would happened. Da, da, your body doesn't give a shit what would've happened. , it's your ego. That's your ego wanting to know. And the, the, the lesson is really that if you, if you come to the Sage or the I Ching with that attitude, that it will play with you right back.

[01:28:26] And I think that is also true for splenic intuition, spleen authority that if you play with it, it's not going to your, your, you are kind of like, abrading that, that relationship with it, you know, mm-hmm so I would say experiment, play. but don't look for proof. Don't look for justification.

[01:28:50] Mm-hmm just allow it, allow, allow it. Yeah. And I would also say too, depending on your chart like we were saying [01:29:00] two focus on the centers that are defined to your spleen for places in the body or the energetic body where you feel that intuitive hit first mm-hmm . Cuz I think you're right. I think that's where you do feel it first.

[01:29:17] So I would definitely recommend studying your chart in that way and, and connecting with those places either through meditation or through breath work. , again, I it's, it is a bodily, it's a bodily authority. Yeah. And it wants you to pay attention to the body. Mm-hmm .

[01:29:39] Alexandria: So then the extension suggestion that I would add to that is that it is really important for you to begin deconditioning from outside sources.

[01:29:53] Yeah. So if you haven't begun your deconditioning process, just in general

[01:29:57] Alexandra: of, oh gosh, I thought we'd already, I thought that was already [01:30:00] like, yeah. Well that

[01:30:01] Alexandria: assumed yes, it is assumed, but I think it's a, it's an important reminder because you're really always, we're not like always, always deconditioning, but you're, you know, at the beginning it's, it's it can be kind of cumbersome.

[01:30:16] Sure. But I think, you know, over, over the course of time, it becomes less and less cumbersome, but having a regular practice of getting out of other people's energy. Yeah. Getting away from, you know, Sacral roll and solar plexi,

[01:30:35] Alexandra: solar Plex. I it's solar

[01:30:36] Alexandria: plexi, but I thought it was fun. Solar plexus is getting away from those on a regular basis so that you can tune into your own mm-hmm body, your own energy.

[01:30:47] Yeah. And even maybe more specifically too, I, I am a huge proponent for this, and I know that a lot of people are for many, many different reasons, but take an intake [01:31:00] detox for the love of God. Like get off of social media for a while, stop listening to podcast for a while, stop reading blogs, whatever you're doing, whatever you're doing to outsource your information, whether you are consciously aware that you are outsourcing decision making by listening to podcasts or not.

[01:31:21] There's a big chance that you are mm-hmm so like take a break yeah. Take a break from that.

[01:31:29] Alexandra: Thanks for listening to us also now stop. Yeah.

[01:31:32] Alexandria: of course. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Like it's totally not lost on me. Like this is no, totally. Yeah. Like

[01:31:38] Alexandra: it's, it is really, really important. And I think that that is a huge part of tuning in and being able to listen to what that splenic authority is saying.

[01:31:49] And I would also say like, if you know your variables, if you know your motivation, your cognition, your environment, get into your environment, see how different it feels. [01:32:00] See how when you, if you're blending caves, like see how it feels when you're in your cave, like environment to hear your authority.

[01:32:10] Mm-hmm Because, yeah. Being able to, to detox from all of that is definitely going to provide the space for that muscle to

[01:32:20] Alexandria: stretch. Yep, absolutely. Yeah. Awesome. Here for it. Well, thank you, Alexandra. Do you have any final words or anything to share?

[01:32:33] Alexandra: Gosh, I just no, I feel like we covered so much and it was, so it was so juicy, but yeah, I, I, I'm glad that we are having conversations around splenic authority in a way that hopefully make it accessible or validate someone else's experience.

[01:32:52] Mm-hmm

[01:32:53] Alexandria: agreed. Agreed. Yeah, there there's there's too much [01:33:00] uncertainty. About the splenic authority. Yeah. I, I think there's a lot of copying out from teachers. I'm just gonna say that like, it's just easier to say it's quiet. Oh yeah. It's quiet and everybody feels it different. Oh, that's really easy.

[01:33:17] Alexandra: Thanks. That's really thanks. Yeah. Well yeah, I, I would, I would also just like to to end with that, the more you practice it, the more you, the more you practice trusting it. Yeah. And it's, and it's direction for you, the stronger and the more specific it becomes. I promise. I promise. I promise. I promise.

[01:33:43] I promise.

[01:33:44] Alexandria: Beautiful. That's great. Ending note.

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